PODCAST:Past Present Future
TITLE:History of Ideas 5: George Orwell
DATE:2023-12-29 00:00:00
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In the "Past Present Future" podcast episode titled "History of Ideas 5: George Orwell," host David Runciman reflects on George Orwell's essay "The Lion and the Unicorn," set against the backdrop of 1941, a year marked by the ascendance of fascism and the grim state of the world during World War II. Runciman delves into Orwell's exploration of English identity and character, particularly in the context of resisting fascism.
Orwell's essay, written during a time when Britain stood alone against the rising tide of fascism, questions why and how England managed to resist this ideology. He attributes England's resilience to its unique form of nationalism, distinct from the more bombastic and aggrandizing nationalisms of continental Europe. Orwell's interpretation of English national character hinges on three main aspects: England as a naval power, its imperial history, and its inherent hypocrisy. The naval tradition meant less direct interaction with military power, while the empire's wealth was largely out of sight and mind for the average English citizen. The hypocrisy, as Orwell saw it, was in the disparity between the ideals of liberty and the realities of oppression and class stratification.
Runciman highlights Orwell's assertion that this hypocrisy was, paradoxically, England's saving grace against fascism. This hypocrisy, involving maintaining certain standards and appearances, helped prevent the worst outcomes, like succumbing to fascist ideologies. However, Orwell argued that this alone wouldn't be enough to win the war; a shift towards a more organized, socialist state was necessary.
Orwell envisioned a progression from Neville Chamberlain to Winston Churchill and then to a socialist leader like Clement Attlee, reflecting a shift from appeasement and resistance to a reformed, more egalitarian society. Runciman points out that while this transformation did occur post-war, it wasn't exactly as Orwell had envisioned. Institutions like the House of Lords and public schools, which Orwell deemed necessary to abolish for democratic socialism, persisted.
The episode also touches on Orwell's perception of the democratization of culture and its failure to translate into political institutions. Runciman suggests that Orwell, in anticipating a profound social and political transformation, was only partially correct. The post-war era did see significant changes, but many elements of the "old" England, characterized by class divisions and institutional continuities, remained.
In conclusion, Runciman reflects on how Orwell's insights on English identity and the nature of hypocrisy continue to resonate, suggesting that despite the changes over the decades, there are aspects of English society and character that remain fundamentally consistent.
