PODCAST:The Daily
TITLE:Trump’s Case for Total Immunity
DATE:2024-01-10 00:00:00
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In the episode titled "Trump's Case for Total Immunity" from "The Daily" podcast, hosted by Natalie Kitroff, Adam Liptak discusses the legal argument presented by former President Donald Trump's lawyers in federal court. Trump's legal team asserts that he has absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for his official acts while in office, even after his presidency. This claim, if accepted, would shield Trump from various legal challenges, including a federal indictment by Special Counsel Jack Smith related to Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election.
The episode delves into the nuances of this argument, with Trump's lawyer, John Sauer, presenting the case that such immunity is necessary to prevent presidents from being constantly distracted or deterred by the threat of criminal prosecution. This argument draws on the Supreme Court's decision in "Nixon v. Fitzgerald," which granted civil lawsuit immunity to former presidents for their official acts. However, the Supreme Court has not directly addressed criminal prosecution immunity, leading to this pivotal legal debate.
Government lawyers, represented by James Pierce of Special Counsel Jack Smith's team, challenge Trump's claims. They argue that allowing Trump's form of immunity could set a dangerous precedent where presidents could act with impunity, even in cases of severe misconduct. They highlight the differences between civil and criminal cases and emphasize that criminal proceedings have safeguards like grand juries, judges, juries, and appellate processes, ensuring that prosecutions are justified and not politically motivated.
The judges in the federal appeals court express skepticism towards Trump's argument, especially in the context of extreme hypothetical scenarios like a president selling pardons or military secrets. They question the logic behind the claim that impeachment and conviction are the only means to hold a president accountable for criminal acts.
The episode concludes with Liptak's analysis of the likely outcome and implications of the case. He predicts that the appeals court will rule against Trump, leading to further appeals and potentially bringing the matter to the U.S. Supreme Court. Liptak also discusses the political and practical aspects of the case, including Trump's strategy of delaying legal proceedings, which could impact his potential candidacy in upcoming elections.
