PODCAST:Past Present Future
TITLE:The End of the UK?
DATE:2024-01-11 00:00:00
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In this episode of "Past Present Future," titled "The End of the UK," host David Runciman speaks with political scientist and historian Mike Kenny about the past, present, and future of the United Kingdom. They delve into the complexities of the UK as a union, exploring its unique characteristics and the factors that could potentially lead to its dissolution.
Key points discussed in the episode include:
Uniqueness of the UK: Mike Kenny highlights how the UK, as a union state, is unique due to its historical formation through different unions, particularly with England being the largest and most dominant part. The absence of a codified constitution and the presence of parliamentary sovereignty add to its distinctiveness.
Historical Context: The conversation traces the origins of the UK, focusing on the Anglo-Scottish Union, which is not a story of conquest or partition but rather a mutual arrangement. They discuss how this historical context has shaped the current political landscape.
Stability and Change: Runciman and Kenny explore the periods of stability in the UK, particularly in the mid-20th century, and the factors that contributed to it, such as the strong two-party political system and the aftermath of world wars. They discuss how the later decades, especially the 1960s and 1970s, saw the reemergence of nationalism in Scotland and Wales, partly due to economic shifts.
Labour Party and Devolution: They delve into the Labour Party's role in the devolution process during the late 20th century, particularly under Tony Blair's leadership. The conversation touches on the pragmatism and wishful thinking involved in this process and its implications for the union.
Brexit and the Union: The episode examines the impact of Brexit on the union, considering various interpretations of its potential effects on the UK's cohesion. They discuss how Brexit has highlighted the asymmetry of power within the UK and the challenges it poses to the devolved governments.
COVID-19 Pandemic: The pandemic's impact on the UK is discussed, with a focus on how it has revealed differences in responses between the devolved governments and Westminster. They debate whether the pandemic has served as a laboratory for experimental governance within the UK.
Future of the UK: Runciman poses scenarios for the future of the UK, considering the possibilities of a Labour government and the Conservative Party's potential response. They discuss the likelihood of the UK facing a territorial crisis and the challenges it poses to unionist politics.
The episode provides a comprehensive analysis of the complexities and dynamics of the UK as a union, offering insights into its historical development, current challenges, and potential future scenarios.
